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. >> the president responds to john boehner, but democratic leader nancy pelosi has a plan to get around the speaker. tonight, leader pelosi joins me for an exclusive interview. >>> senator john kerry like you have never seen him before. the statesman from massachusetts scolds the radical right after senate republicans block a u.n. treaty on rights for the disabled because they are concerned about home schooling. you don't want to miss this tape. >>> plus my interview with ohio senator sherrod brown on what looks like a massive win for progressives and elizabeth warren. >>> then senator debbi stabenow of michigan on the latest in the fight to end republican obstruction. and the people creating petitions on the white house website are getting more and more creative. we'll tell you what the new petition to build a death star. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. democrats are determined to extend the middle class tax cuts before the end of the year. that's the bottom line. party leaders and members are all on the same page. president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner.
this to the floor? >> an urgent message from nancy pelosi. but it's casual friday for speaker boehner. >> this isn't a progress report bauds there's no progress to report. >> today's news, speaker boehner and president obama will be the only two at the table to make a deal. i'll ask emanuel cleaver if boehner can get it done. >>> 33 months of private sector job growth. now is the time to start spending on jobs. david cay johnston is here. >>> the filibuster is more than an embarrassing blunder. bernie sanders explains why. >>> the right to work in michigan has ignited a fire storm with workers. we'll have the latest on rick snider's race to the bottom. >>> and breaking news from the supreme court. there will be a decision on the constitutionality of same-sex marriage. law professor jonathan terly has all the details. >> thanks for watching. john boehner isn't having a lot of fun this holiday season. president obama continues his pressure campaign to pass the tax cuts. the president is also taking time to be fesive. john boehner doesn't sound so merry. >> no progress report because there's no progr
anymore in front of business leaders. >> let me ask you this, margie. nancy pelosi argued that the democrats must stand strong against raising the medicare eligibility age. will democrats hold the line on this? >> i don't think there's any question. we cannot raise the age of medicare. this would be a marriage major cut in benefits. it would hurt people from 65 to 67 because the truth of the matter is, many people in the united states are not living longer. those are people, poor women are actually living shorter. people who make less money are living -- i have not seen their longevity grow. we cannot do that. that is a cut in benefits that we don't want and the american people are adamantly against it, overwhelmingly against it. >> is that a deal breaker, then, for democrats if the ageç eligibility is on the table? >> i think if the age of eligibility is on the table -- and i doubt very much that it will be. i believe that the president is not going to support that. and i believe that the democrats are not going to support changing the age of eligibility. it is nothing
to growth in the country. >> it seemed like nancy pelosi was in favor of some two-part solution. let me play what she said last night. >> we've talked about a two-step, a downpayment on cuts, on investments and on revenue this year and then in the next year take the time to go over what we would do with real revenue reform. you can't do it in a matter of weeks right now. >> i mean you hear a lot of that, there's only so much you can do. chris, you don't want to rush into making complicated decisions that should take more time, isn't that what americans are frustrated with congress they always seem to punt. >> what nancy pelosi was talking about wasn't exactly the tax cuts now, fiscal cliff later. both sides have said this has to be a two-step process, there has to be some kind of commitment in downpayment on taxes and entitlement cuts and sets up a framework for broader and comprehensive tax and entitlement reform next year because it is such a big, huge change to how we tax and how we would provide medicare and medicaid and social security, you can't do it all in four books. this new idea t
that's been put against a person like nancy pelosi. now, nancy pelosi, you can say a lot of things but at the end of the day, nancy pelosi is an italian-american grandmother. she carries the values of exactly that. so when you saw -- okay, it wasn't perfect but when you saw obama care actually breakthrough and make it, it was because the burden was on nancy to pull it through. >> that's part of what makes me nervous, that nancy pelosi is not at the table. >> hello. that's why over and over and over, they have demonized her and over and over and over they have wanted to eliminate her. some even on the democratic side. why? because she is actually the values person in the room saying -- >> we are going to break now. as soon as we come back, i'm going to talk on another value that's getting demonized about the rights of workers to organize. my letter is next. this week, to the governor of michigan. why is the birth place of modern labor movements trying to kill unions when we come back. [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male ann
to talk about. we don't know if nancy pelosi will be speaking later on today at noon. we know president obama will be speaking. does this misstep that we were just talking about, does it hurt? is this just mcconnell really just trying to get his say into this process? >> you know, richard, i don't think so. i actually think senator mcconnell's proposal was a pretty good one regardless of who is president. president obama or then governor romney. the notion that this country every 12, 14 month is going to have this hostage taking by congress over a debt ceiling is not a way to run, you know, the largest enterprise in the world, the united states government. there's nothing in the constitution that talks about a debt ceiling. this has become kind of in the past a pro forma process that has now turned into a financial armageddon each time it comes about and i do think granting the president these additional rights and then allowing congress with a two-thirds vote to say, hold on here, that might be a more appropriate way regardless of who is the president is. but i don't think yesterday's
the public has spoken and the public has been very clear on that. >> and today former speaker nancy pelosi schooled speaker boehner on what it means to make difficult decisions as a leader. take a listen to this. >> i had to do it as speaker. do you know what it was like for me to bring a bill to floor to fund the war in iraq? so it's tough. but you have to do it. so is the point that you don't want to put your members on the spot, figure it out. we did. figure it out. >> there's nancy pelosi appealing to boehner figure it out twice. how high is the level towards the speaker? >> it's very high. i think leader pelosi is absolutely right. at some point the leader is placed in that position to bring members together to do the right thing. leader pelosi when she was speaker she did an excellent job of it to bring us together to make those right decisions. and some of those decisions are hard. your entire caucus is not going to agree with you all the time, but that's the role of a leader, martin. that's what leaders do. that's why they're selected to do what they do. and so i'm hoping that he w
and nancy pelosi held duelling news conferences slamming the other side for not taking the looming crisis seriously. >> this isn't a progress report, because there's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> we've had time. the president has given the republicans flexibility to come up with a credible, specific plan. what they offered in return was an empty letter lacking in specifics. >> meanwhile, vice president biden is having lunch with several middle class americans who would see their income taxes go up if the tax cuts are not extended. all of this comes as the first jobs report since the election exceeded expectations. the u.s. economy added some 146,000 jobs last month. that was enough it to drive the unemployment rate down to 7.7%. joining me to talk about all of it, florida congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz and she chairs the democratic national committee. good friday afternoon to you. >> thank you. >> john boehner said today that democrats' plan is to, quote, slo
to put on a holiday tie to take up the case of mr. scrooge and the top 2%. as nancy pelosi asked, why, oh, why is congress on another recess when they could be extending tax breaks for the middle class just in time for christmas? >> this is a moment of truth, the clock is ticking, christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat, why are you not bringing this to the floor? is this a forever, forever protection of the wealthiest people in our country at the expense of the middle class? >> yes, that just about sums it all up. did we mention bain's congress has been in session all of one day this week, back on tuesday. six-day weekend. nice work if you can get it. if you listen closely to boehner and pelosi, you can perhaps hear the beginning notes of a harmonious christmas carol starting to take shape. >> it's not about the rate. it's about the money. >> there are a lot of things that are possible to put the revenue that the president seeks on the table. >> i know. it doesn't sound like much, but, remember, this is congress. and listen to the president as he lit the national christmas tree las
65 to 67. medicare eligibility age rises. democrats do not like that idea as nancy pelosi explained yesterday. >> first of all, show me the money. i don't even know why that is something that people think is going to produce money. what are we going to do with people between 65 and 67? show me the money there. but it's not even the right thing to do, first and foremost. but is it a trophy that the republicans want? is that the trophy they want in order to do what is right to raise the rates for the wealthiest people in our country? >> let me say for the record i think pelosi is right. i don't think raising the age is the right idea. i'm going to show you the money later on. but what she did not do is not rule it out. if republicans end up getting it, it's something the obama administration told john boehner they were willing to trade away if republicans end up getting it, that will feel like a big win for them. enough to unlock the tax deal. i'm not saying the final negotiation here will be easy. one thing that's a tough sticking point in negotiations. we began tonight which the whi
of punch. that's what nancy pelosi meant when she called it a trophy. republicans see this as a big win for them. big. and that's kind of the white house's quiet argument. it's a terrible policy, but because obama care and employers and others are there to catch a lot of these people, it might get more republican votes while doing less harm to seniors than the alternatives. with the spark cash card from capital one, olaf gets great rewards for his small business! pizza! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve great rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? [ nyquil bottle ] just reading your label. wait...you relieve nasal congestion? sure don't you? [ nyquil bottle ] dude! [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold and flu doesn't. >>>
the wealthy. nancy pelosi was here last night talking to the president, i'm told. we are working this issue very hard, alex, as you're probably aware, trying to figure out the state of play here. there isn't much movement here. there wasn't a lot of information to share. everyone in washington that's close to this es being very cagey. the president is actually out golfing right now. i'm told john boehner the speaker has stayed in town this weekend, somewhat unusual for him. but as far as we can see, no movement, alex. >> okay. mike, now don't go too far. you're coming back as one of our esteemed guests in today's big panel. about 1:45. you're going to get all the hard questions. it's all coming your way. we'll see you in a bit. thank you. >>> the fiscal cliff is not just a concern for americans as my next guest learned on a recent trade mission to china where he was pat of a conference organized by former u.s. treasury secretary hank paulsen. joining me now, philadelphia mayor michael nutter here in studio. good day to you. >> good seeing you, alex. >> tell me first of all what was the miss
sides. on the president's side, he's got the left. he's got nancy pelosi and several other, you know, prominent democrats pushing him from the left. boehner has a more difficult path to negotiate. he's got jim demint in the senate hollering each and every day. he's got his own problems in the house, as we've just spoken to. within the context of this, jack lew, chief of staff, along with treasury geithner, is sitting there every day trying to put something together. jack lew 30 years ago was working for tip o'neill. he knows the rough architecture of a road map towards a deal. one of the keys, especially with regard to speaker boehner is, you cannot leave your opponent, speaker boehner, hanging out there to dry, getting pummeled by his own side. you've got to come to him a little. but i agree with steve rattner, the president is not going to yield on tax rates for the wealthy. he's not going to yield on that. >> he's going to have to yield in some way. i mean, maybe it's 37% that's the top tax rate. >> yeah. >> maybe you go from $250,000 to $400,000 or $250,000 to $500,000. he's goin
forward and challenged the president's plan. democratic leader nancy pelosi told me last night, ceos have been very understanding of the plan set forth by the white house. the business community is willing to accept rate increases. they are really making more concession than john boehner. eric cantor says republicans are not going to adjourn this year until a deal is reached. is that a sign of early capitulation? he knows republicans can't go home to their districts with absolutely nothing to show for it. that's not what the american people voted for. john boehner says he's willing to stick around town to get a deal done? >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president, to get serious about solving this problem. >> but president obama says john boehner's presence is not the solution, it's the problem. >> the holdup right now is that speaker boehner took a position, you think the day after the campaign, that said, we're willing to bring in revenue, but we're not willing to increase rates. and i've just explained to you why we don't think that works. >> se
think that is the single clearest indication of seriousness to date. that is, instead of having nancy pelosi, harry reid, and the president and boehner and mitch mcconnell, you have two men in one room and that to me says an awful lot. the fact they released a statement that's plu conic. the lines of communication are open. this indicates to me a degree of seriousness we haven't seen to date and very important. now,ly also point out to you on the issue of balance and what former senator simpson said, i'm paying attention to the statements of business leaders right now. in particular, look at randall stevenson, ceo of at&t who said i think we need to avoid the fiscal cliff and a balanced approach and someone who's trended republican personally, that says a lot. it gives cover to the republicans in congress that this is okay to do in the name of american business. >> david, i want to quickly pivot back to entitlement reform. if the republicans have cover with the business world, let's play what erskine bowles said about entitlements and the president. >> i don't see why the president wo
unacceptable, but president obama has put a lot on the table. nancy pelosi hit back at boehner's rhetoric today. >> the fact is, the president has and democrats agree, to $1.6 trillion cuts. where are the cuts? in bills that you, mr. speaker, have voted for. >> pelosi is lobbying for house republicans to hold a vote on letting tax cuts expire for the wealthiest americans. with house majority leader eric cantor and congressman paul ryan tasked with pushing boehner's plan on the tea party, it's going to be a tough sell. they are part of boehner's strategy team? in the meantime, the white house is hitting back at boehner and the gop tactics. >> a question of whether or not we have specific spending cuts, the answer is we have. i understand they may not agree with all of it. but it exists. >> i'm joined by illinois congresswoman january schakowsky joining us tonight. congresswoman, good to have you with us. >> thanks, ed. >> harry reid now says it's going to be awful hard to reach a deal by christmas. where is this all heading, in your opinion? >> the republicans are in total disarray. i think john
none other than majority leader nancy pelosi. listen to her advice to mr. boehner. >> do you know what it was like for me to bring a bill to florida to fund the war in iraq? it's tough. but you have to do it. so is the point that you don't want to put your members on the spot? figure it out. we did. figure it out. >> figure it out. sound advice. >> we did. [ laughter ] >> it's true, i think that pelosi, that example, is a really vivid one, if nothing else. considering the opposition that the democrats had. the compromise that she had to make. and, as i said, there are compromising going on that we don't know about. a lot of what boehner is doing is posturing in order to appeal to people on the base and to donors. he needs to look like he fought the good fiegts. in public, it needs to look like he's really standing up for conservative principles, however confused those may be. and, in private, he may be making deals. he's known to be a man who is good at that kind of politics. this is sort of the thing where it is interesting to see that the republicans are making a bet that this postur
on its military than china. >>> you are looking at live pictures here. nancy pelosi and the newly elected house leaders. california's maxine waters the top democrat in financial services. the first democratic women to serve as ranking members of either of those committees. many of the top jobs are not changing hands. last week the caucus re-elected pelosi, van hollen into their leadership role and after yesterday's vote waxman and slaughter will remain the ranking members of their key committees. gag ls coming here next. the gaggle makes it to new york. first, the white house soup of the day. ceos and the president munching on chicken noodle. i could use one more day of chicken noodle soup and my fiscal cough, i think, will be gone. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. go ahead, mark y
is the old phrase. >> that's true. >> this morning minority leader nancy pelosi highlighted the diversity of the committee chairs on the democratic side of the house, women and minorities well represented there. last week republicans were lambasted for appointing all white nearly all male committee chairs. has the republican party learned the lessons from the election or do they risk paying the price in the next one? >> well, thomas, forget about the committee chairs. i think the diversity and inclusion and outreach, i think it begins at the grassroots level and i've been pretty critical and vocal over the last two or three weeks and i think that every single republican in this country ought to be concerned about what's happened to us in the last two election cycles in the presidential race, and we lost with every -- we have lost with every demographic out there except for white men and i've been saying for 20 years that we've got to do a better job with nontraditional constituencies and we can't expect to have diversity in our committee chairs when we've got our republican party chairman
. he has to deal with nancy pelosi one way or another. >> howard dean and krystal ball, thank you both for joining me tonight. >> thanks. >> coming up, there is a sleeping giant in the tax policy issues facing the president and congress, and no one is talking about it yet. another republican is takingç shots at mitt romney, and this time of all people it's paul ryan. and also coming up, marijuana, marriage, hillary clinton, seceding from the union and gangham style are all in the rewrite. ♪ well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. crest pro-health for life. so jill can keep livin
right now. as we speak, house minority leader nancy pelosi is giving her briefing this morning. weep put that up for everybody to see. when we talk about where we are in the staging of all of this, all the drama, the back and forth, the clock ticking, americans truly watching this, you think that the house would be in session today but you all closed up house day early, streamed out yesterday in a walkout. what gives? how do you explain this to the american people when they expect you should be at work trying to resolve this? >> i'm not sure you would call it a walkout. we're waiting for the president to act. we have laid something on the table and we continue to be stalemated by the president and his administration. i am so disappointed that the treasury, geithner, said yesterday they're willing to go off the fiscal cliff and they're notle to negotiate and put something on the table. we've put a good faith effort on the table and you know what, the president is the leatheaet lead. i expect him to be in washington rather than out campaigning. the campaigning is over. it's time to sit at
you this. house democrats, many democrats nancy pelosi and others have been vehicle toll say we don't need to give that much if there is a deal. that democrats they won the election, president obama campaigned on many things that he's pushing. one, do you agree? number two, what role, if that is the role of house democrats what role can house democrats play in influencing that process since this is being cast as president obama and john bain somewhere nobody else. >> the role that the house democrats have played all along that is we continue to put forward an agenda that is acceptable to all sides. as i mentioned, jobs, first and foremost. back home, chris, they're not talking about sequestration. they're saying, look, why can't you guys get together and create the jobs that we need? only within the beltway do we become obsessed with this thing. they expect as adults we'll sit down and work this through. i believe that will happen. i believe the democrats, especially the house, have to remain crystal clear on what we're for. for the creation of jobs, for tax cuts for the middle clas
't reached. here's what nancy pelosi had to say about geithner's remarks. let me play it. >> if there is no agreement, then the fiscal cliff has to be dealt with. i didn't see it if they decent this, we do that. i saw it as a statement of fact. it's not a threat. it's a prediction. if there's no agreement, we go over the cliff. let's hope we can have an agreement. >> what do you make of the way she put it? it's not a threat. she said, listen, these are the facts. >> nice little economy you have there. nice little economy you have there. it would be a shame it if anything happened to it. that's not a threat. look, we have to start looking at what happens if we do, in fact, go over the so-called cliff, and what happens is, you know, one thing is we take a huge bite out of the deficit. we do it in a crude may, and there would be immediate attempts to fix it and fine-tune it and take some back. some would probably get through. if you actually want to look at it from a policy standpoint, it may not be the worst possible option to just go over the cliff and then put back in the
serious entitlement reform. and a few hours ago nancy pelosi wondered what exactly he had in mind. take a listen. >> what are we talking about here? what are we talking about when we say restructure entitlements? what does restructure mean? destroy, wither on the vine, voucherize, or does it mean let's work together to make these stronger? >> now, given that speaker boehner doesn't tell us anything, are you able to give us any specific examples of what democrats may be prepared to concede in terms of earned entitlements? >> well, i am not willing to say that we cut benefits at all because we can, in fact, make medicare more cost-effective and bring down health care costs without cutting benefits. we did that, and the republicans hit us over the head with it. you remember that number $716 billion and the accusation that democrats were taking it away from seniors and from medicare. >> i remember that lie very, very well. >> and then the president wins the election and now they say and you must cut medicare. well, you know, first of all, that's a very, very unpopular position. and second o
elections are. collective bargaining. >> house democratic leader nancy pelosi pointed out jim demint was one of the ringleaders in voting down the u.n. treaty for people with disabilities this week. >> that was one of the saddest days, so anyone who was a party to that, well, i wish them well wherever they are going and hope that we can have more of our values represented there. >> it was demint and his tea party allies who pushed the country to the brink of default back in 2011. this is what demint told abc news about republicans who tried to strike a debt deal. >> what happens if -- what happens to republicans who go along with a debt ceiling increase? if they go along with the debt ceiling increase without a balanced budget amendment and the kind of stuff you're talking about? >> i think for the most part they're gone. it would be the most toxic vote we could take. >> demint's far right ideology is a key reason nothing gets done in this congress. house speaker john boehner is currently being pressured by demint and his followers to refuse any debt deal with tax increases. demint was on ru
and representative nancy pelosi have been excluded from talks leaving it to boehner and obama to make a deal. though boehner spokesman michael steele tells us this morning if we're going to solve this problem every congressional leader and more importantly the white house have all important roles to play. the fact is we've heard this same thing. and that is that pelosi and the senate leaders are not in the room at first. they'll be brought in when boehner and the white house are close. mann while, back to the debt ceiling. the new republicans' main point of leverage n. a rare misstep, mcconnell may have taken some of that leverage away in a move that ended with mcconnell filibustering himself. the president doesn't have enough democratic support, mcconnell moved to vote to permanently give the president the rate to approve the debt ceiling. reid shocked mcconnell by calling the idea of having that vote a positive development. forcing him to reject a vote he had called for himself. >> is there objection? >> reserving the right to object, matters of this controversy -- what we're talking about here is
and nancy pelosi have been dismissed from the negotiating table. leaving just the speaker and the president to hammer this one out. today vice president biden is hosting middle-class families at the white house, continuing to pressure congress to strike a deal on tax rates below 250,000. yesterday, the president struck a hopeful note with a middle-income family in virginia, while maintaining a hardline on negotiations. >> the message that i think we all want to send to members of congress is, this is a sovble problem. i'm not going to sign any package that somehow prevents the top rate from going up for rate at the top 2% but i remain optimistic we can get something done for that is good for families like this one and that is good for the american economy. >> but the clock is ticking. with just two full weeks before christmas to go. joining me now from washington, the man with all the answers, cnbc's ayman jabbers. it's always so good and important to have you on the show. >> thanks. >> in general, but on days like today, where the numbers come out and we all think to ourselves, is this eve
after house ni mort leader nancy pelosi put the plame back on republicans. let's listen. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat, but in many homes across america it's very -- a very, very lean time. >> and today's jobs report showing 146,000 jobs added in november and unemployment dipping to 7.7% may give the president some leverage in negotiations with boehner. but while the president and speaker boehner are both negotiating for a win, what is a win for each of them. what adds up to this complexity of getting a deal done? christa freeland is author of quths plutocrats." cynthia is a visiting professor of journalism from the university of georgia. thank you for joining us tonight. let's see if we can define it. it's a game and it's incredibly high stakes. christa, thank you for copping on tonight. if you were the president of the united states and you were looking from here to the new
's no progress to report. >> minority leader nancy pelosi went to the cameras almost immediately after that with a few questions of her own for the speaker. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans' unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. this top 2%, which by the way gets a tax cut. why are you not bringing this to the floor? is this a forever, forever protection of the wealthiest people in our country at the expense of the middle class? >> at a virginia diner having lunch with middle class people who are facing a tax increase come january 1st, vice president joe biden put the pressure on boehner in the way that only joe biden can. >> folks, this is not hard. this ain't rocket science. it would take 15 minutes from the time the decision was made by the speaker of the house to pass and make permanent middle class tax cuts. the president would probably have me sprint up to the hill to bring the bill down for him to sign. it can be done like that. it is not complicated. >> the president and the democrats have the poll numbe
not coincidentally who was at the white house yesterday, nancy pelosi talking to the president. >> okay. mike viqueira talking to us. thanks so much. >>> developing news this morning, nbc news has learned egyptian authorities have made a major arrest in the gaza libya consulate attack that killed ambassador chris stevens and three other americans. reporting from cairo, egypt, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, alex. sources tell nbc news they have a man in custody they believe is connected to the u.s. consulate in benghazi that took place september 11th and killed four americans, including ambassador chris stevens. according to the egyptian source the man is identified as being in his late 30s. he's known to egyptian intelligence officials for his connections in the past with extremist groups both in egypt and libya and his connections with groups in afghanistan and iraq. acht the country's revolution he managed to escape from a prison where he was being held. it was shortly afterwards he emerged on the scene for egyptian intelligence officials who say he began trading arms into libya,
do kating the role to nancy pelosi and harry reid. this time around, maybe because he feels he has the mandate, he's doing the negotiations straight on with boehner which i think leads to a better result. this is an overall different approach in his leadership whether it's because he's thinking legacy or anything? should we expect to see this level of leadership going forward? >> i think he tried to make a deal with boener in 2011. we know he was close to a deal with boehner and then the gang of six with the plan more aggressive. sort of a bigger deal and the president sort of balked at the agreement. seemed to be putting in to place with boehner and then boehner walked away, as well, and the whole thing fell apart. i think you have seen an acknowledgment. if the president and boehner come to an agreement then the senate will come along, the house democrat wills come along. a number of them will. these are really the key negotiators and has to be done at that level to get something finished. >> jonathan, i have to say i'm a little bit skeptical about one aspect of this. it looks li
security and medicare, they're going to go bankrupt. >> nancy pelosi was skeptical about the possible proposal last week. >> first of all, show me the money. i don't even know why that is something that people think is going to produce money. what are we going to do with people between 65 and 67? what is it, a trophy that the republicans want? is that the trophy that they want in order to do what is right, to raise -- to raise the rates for the wealthiest people in our country? >> in addition to giving republicans a victory on entitlements, progressive thinkers make the point that raising the eligibility age is a really stupid way to save money because it just forces people to stop buying health care through medicare, which is relatively cheap, and start buying it through private insurance, which costs way more. as the new republic points out, the federal government would save money, yes, but only because state governments, employers, and individual seniors would pay more. how much more? estimates from the center for budget priorities and policy shows the federal government would save
. just more of the same. >> more of the same indeed. and as minority leader nancy pelosi today declared with americans making their lists of holiday shopping and calculating their year-end finances, now is no time for playing politics. >> it is not a time to inject even more uncertainty into the lives of the american people and the economy of our country and what that means globally. it simply isn't the time. many of these ideas are bad at any time, but they're particularly harmful at this time. >> and while speaker boehner bemoans the lack of spending cuts, white house spokesman jay carney was happy to hold up the physical evidence of those cuts in today's briefing. >> pages 17 to 45 details on proposed spending cuts by the president. what we haven't seen from republicans to this day is a single specific proposal on revenue. >> i wonder why that would be? sheer stubbornness or might there be some sort of strife in the republican power structure? majority leader, harry reid. >> they can't decide what they're going to do. we have heard about the infighting going on with the house leaders
was met with a reality heck from nancy pelosi. >> if the president doesn't agree with our approach, he has the obligation to put forward a plan that can pass both chambers of the congress. >> we have been calling upon the speaker to bring forth middle income tax cuts for a very long time, in fact, since last summer when it passed the united states senate, the president stands ready and poised to sign it. democrats in the house have a discharge position to bring that bill to the floor. what stands in the way is an act on the part of the republican majority to bring a middle income tax cut to the floor of the house. >> one congressional republican leadership watcher provided this update on the state of john boehner's negotiating position. >> john boehner is speaking. he's reporting in. he says he's an optimist. but he doesn't sound optimistic. in what he is explaining, stressing the need to cut spending. did say he's hopeful we can reach an agreement. i don't care where you turn. in the conservative intelligence, you are seeing the republicans have no prayer now. they're just going to have t
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